Posible nga bang ang Diyos ay binubuo ng tatlong persona?
Napakadami nilang naimbentong palusot ngayon,
este
paliwanag sa kanilang 1 Diyos na may tatlong
persona,
andyan yung kinumpara nila ang kanilang Diyos sa
"TAO DAW"
na binubuo ng katawan, espirito at kaluluwa,
andyan din yung
kinumpara nila ang kanilang Diyos sa 3 in 1 na
kape na
binubuo ng creamer, asukal at kape. Naisip ko,
may point
naman sila. Pero nag isip ako ng mas malalim,
inanalize ko...
Ayon na rin sa bibliya, ang tao ay binubuo ng
katawan,
espirito at kaluluwa:
"May the God of peace himself make you holy
in every way.
And may your whole being—spirit, soul, and
body—remain
blameless when our Lord Jesus, the Messiah,
appears." 1
Kapag ang isa sa mga bumubuo sa tao ay wala o
nawala,
hindi maaaring mabuhay ang tao, halimbawa may
katawan at
espirito nga siya wala namang kaluluwa, wala rin
yun:
"So, considering that Soul means breath -
no, you could not
exist on Earth, or anywhere else for that
matter, for very long."
"Without these forces of life, no, no-one
could exist on earth.
So you can't exist without a spirit again."
Eh paano kung mawawala ang isa sa mga persona ng
kanilang
Diyos, magiging DIYOS pa ba ang kanilang DIYOS?
Nung ipinako si Kristo, ano ang nangyari sa
kaniya? Di bat
namatay? 2/3 days siyang namatay ngunit nabuhay
naman
siyang mag uli. Tanong, paano kaya nag exist ang
kanilang
Diyos nung mga panahong namatay o nawala ang isa
sa mga
persona na bumubuo dito?
Eh kung hiwa hiwalay ang bumubuo sa kanilang
Diyos,
magiging Diyos pa rin kaya ang kanilang Diyos?
"As soon as Jesus was baptized, he came up
out of the water.
Then heaven opened, and he saw God’s Spirit
coming down on
him like a dove. And a voice from heaven said,
“This is my
Son, whom I love, and I am very pleased with
him.” Matthew
3:16-17
Kung ating iintindihin ang mga verses, may
tatlong binabanggit
dito: si Kristo, ang Ama, at ang espirito ng
Diyos o ang espirito
santo. Ang Ama ay nasa LANGIT, ang espirito
santo naman
BUMABABA GALING SA LANGIT at si Kristo naman
nasa LUPA,
especificaly nasa ilog ng Jordan dahil
kakabautismo lang sa
kaniya ni Juan Bautista (baka may pilosopo kasi
dyan^^)
Tanong, paano kaya nag exist ang kanilang Diyos
gayong hiwa
hiwalay ang kaniyang persona?
Paano kaya mag eexist ang tao kung nakahiwalay
ang
katawan sa espirito at kaluluwa? Paano kaya
mabubuo ang
masarap na kape kung magkakahiwalay ang creamer,
kape at
asukal?
Nagets nyo ba ang punto ko?
Ngayon, ang tanong, eto bang Diyos na may
tatlong persona
ang sinamba ng mga Hudyo sa OLD TESTAMENT? Eto
bang
Diyos na may tatlong persona ang ang Diyos ni
Kristo? Eto
bang Diyos na may tatlong persona ang Diyos na
ipinangaral
ng mga Apostol?
Kung ang sagot ay hindi, saan naman kaya napulot
o nakopya
ng mga nag imbento ng Trinity doctrine ang aral
na ito?
Ano sa tingin niyo?
Ito kaya ay galing sa concept ng Trimurti ng mga
Hindu?
The Trimurti (English: ‘three forms’; Sanskrit: त्रिमूर्तिः trimūrti)
is a concept in Hinduism "in which the
cosmic functions of
creation, maintenance, and destruction are
personified by the
forms of Brahmā the creator, Vishnu the
maintainer or
preserver and Śhiva the destroyer or
transformer," These three
deities have been called "the Hindu
triad" or the "Great Trinity",
often addressed as
"Brahma-Vishnu-Maheshwara."
source: wikipedia
Kung hindi sa Trimurti, saan kaya sa mga ito?
Three-headed deities
Further information: Polycephaly
In Hindu mythology, Trisiras and Dattatreya are
explicitly
tricephalous deities, but other instances of
three-headedness
are also found in Hindu iconography, for example
in depictions
of goddess Durga.
The smaller Gallehus horn has a three-headed
figure, holding
an axe in its right hand and a rope tethered to
the leg of a
horned animal in the left.
The hound Cerberus in Greek mythology is often
depicted with
three heads.
Geryon has been depicted as three-headed on the
Herculean
Sarcophagus of Genzano currently held at the
British Museum.
[34]
List of triple deities
Historical polytheism
The Classical Greek Olympic triad of Zeus (king
of the gods),
Athena (goddess of war and intellect) and Apollo
(god of the
sun, culture and music)[36][37]
The Delian chief triad of Leto (mother), Artemis
(daughter) and
Apollo (son)[38][39] and second Delian triad of
Athena, Zeus
and Hera[40]
The Olympian demiurgic triad in platonic
philosophy, made up
of Zeus (considered the Zeus [king of the gods]
of the
Heavens), Poseidon (Zeus of the seas) and Pluto
(mythology)/
Hades (Zeus of the underworld), all considered
in the end to
be a monad and the same Zeus, and the Titanic
demiurgic triad
of Helios (sun when in the sky), Apollo (sun
seen in our world)
and Dionysus (god of mysteries, "sun"
of the underworld) (as
can be seen on Plato's Phaed on the myth
Dionysus and the
Titans)[41]
In ancient Egypt there were many triads:
Osiris (husband), Isis (wife), and Horus
(son),[42]
the Theban triad of Amun, Mut and Khonsu
the Memphite triad of Ptah, Sekhmet and Nefertem
the Elephantine triad of Khnum (god of the
source of the Nile
river), Satet (the personification of the floods
of the Nile river),
and Anuket (the Goddess of the nile river).
the sungod Ra, whose form in the morning was
Kheper, at
noon Re-Horakhty and in the evening Atum, and
many others.
[43]
The Hellenistic Egypt triad of Isis, Alexandrian
Serapis and
Harpocrates (a Hellenized version of the already
referred Isis-
Osiris-Horus triad), though in the early
Ptolemaic period
Serapis, Isis and Apollo (who was though
sometimes identified
with Horus) were preferred[44]
The Roman Capitoline Triad of Jupiter (father),
Juno (wife), and
Minerva (daughter)
The Roman pleibian triad of Ceres, Liber Pater
and Libera (or
its Greek counterpart with Demeter, Dionysos and
Kore)
The Julian triads of the early Roman Principate:
Venus Genetrix, Divus Iulius, and Clementia
Caesaris
Divus Iulius, Divi filius and Genius Augusti
Eastern variants of the Julian triad, e.g. in
Asia Minor: Dea
Roma, Divus Iulius and Genius Augusti (or Divi
filius)
The Matres (Deae Matres/Dea Matrona) in Roman
mythology
The Fates, Moirai or Furies in Greek and Roman
mythology:
Clotho or Nona the Spinner, Lachesis or Decima
the Weaver,
and Atropos or Morta the Cutter of the Threads
of Life. One's
Lifeline was Spun by Clotho, Woven into the
tapestry of Life by
Lachesis, and the thread Cut by Atropos.
The Hooded Spirits or Genii Cucullati in
Gallo-Roman times
The main supranational triad of the ancient
Lusitanian
mythology and religion and Portuguese neo-pagans
made up
of the couple Arentia and Arentius and Quangeius
and
Trebaruna, followed by a minor
Gallaecian-Lusitanian triad of
Bandua (under many natures), Nabia and Reve
female nature:
Reva[45]
The sisters Uksáhkká, Juksáhkká and Sáhráhkká in
Sámi
mythology.
The triad of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat in the
time of
Mohammed (Holy Qu'ran (Abdullah Yusuf Ali
translation), Surah
53:19-22)
Lugus (Esus, Toutatis and Taranis) in Celtic
mythology
Odin, Vili and Ve in Norse mythology
The Norns in Norse mythology
The Triglav in Slavic mythology
Perkūnas (god of heaven), Patrimpas (god of
earth) and
Pikuolis (god of death) in Prussian mythology
The Zorya or Auroras in Slavic mythology
The Charites or Graces in Greek mythology
The One, the Thought (or Intellect) and the Soul
in
Neoplatonism
Eastern religions
Lord Dattatreya
The Saha Realm Trinity in Mahayana Buddhism
(Shakyamuni,
Avalokitesvara and Ksitigarbha)
Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva (Trimurti) in Puranic
Hinduism
Mitra, Indra, and Varuna in early vedic Hinduism
Shakti, Lakshmi, and Saraswati (Tridevi) in
Puranic Hinduism
The Three Pure Ones in Taoism
The Fu Lu Shou in Taoism
Ayyavazhi Trinity
New religious movements
The Triple Goddess in Wicca
Nuit, Hadit and Ra Hoor Khuit in the Thelemic
spiritual system
source: wikipedia
Napakadami pa lang pagpipilian, at kung
mapapansin natin,
lahat ng relihiyon pala na may pinaniniwalaang
Diyos na 3 in 1
o 3 Diyos ay mga PAGANO, bago pa pala mag exist
ang
Kristiyanismo ay marami nang mga 3 in 1 o 3 na
mga Diyos
ang mga tao (na pagano), diba meron ding ganyan
sa
Kristyanismo? Diyos Ama, Diyos Anak at Diyos
Espirito Santo.
Baka naman sabihin ng ilan, WALA SA MGA YAN,
IMPOSSIBLE
YAN, MALABO YAN!
Talaga?
O sige, pagbigyan na natin, sabihin na nating
wala diyan sa
napakaraming choices ng origin ng trinity na
yan, ano kaya ang
pinaka possibleng PINAGMULAN ng imbentong aral
na ito?
Sagot: Hellenization.
Ano ang Hellenization?
"Hellenization (or Hellenisation) is the
historical spread of
ancient Greek culture or Hellenistic
civilization, and, to a lesser
extent, language, over foreign peoples conquered
by Greece or
in its sphere of influence, particularly during
the Hellenistic
period following the campaigns of Alexander the
Great of
Macedon. The result of Hellenization was that
elements of
Greek origin combined in various forms and
degrees with local
elements."
source: wikipedia
Ilan ba ang Diyos ng mga Griyego?
Naku, alam na natin ang sagot dyan! Napakadami!
Sila bay
PAGANO RIN? OO naman!
Ano naman ang kinalaman ng Hellenization sa pag
imbento ng
Trinity doctrine?
"Hellenistic thinkers, who influenced
Christian theologians, had
already been attracted by the emphasis in later
Judaism on
monotheism and transcendence. This tendency was
sketched
out earlier in Plato and later Stoicism, but it
came to its mature
development in Neoplatonism in the 3rd century A.D.
In the first
century Philo of Alexandria had interpreted the
old testament
concept of God in terms of the logos idea of
Hellenistic
philosophy, but this Hellenization led to a
characteristic tension
that was to dominate the entire further history
of ideas."
Encyclopedia
"During the 19th century, protestant
historians, notably F.C
Baur and Adolf von Harnack, sought to show that
the Trinity
was a result of "Hellenization of the
gospel" while Friedrich
Schleiermacher declared that a species of
modalism was the
only meaningful version of the doctrine." Encyclopedia
"Initially, both the requirements of the
monotheism inherited
from the Old Testament and the implications of
the need to
interpret biblical teaching to Greco-Roman
paganism seemed to
demand that the divine Christ as the Word or
Logos be seen
as subordinate to the Supreme Deity. An
alternate solution
was to interpret the Father, Son and Holy Spirit
as three
modes of the self-disclosure one God, but not as
distinct within
the being of God itself." Encyclopedia
“It was when Christianity spread out into pagan
world that the
idea of Jesus as a savior God emerged.” The
meaning of the
dead Sea scrolls
Ibalik natin ang tanong kanina, ano ba ang Diyos
na sinasamba
ng mga Hudyo dati at magpa hanggang ngayon?
The conception of God in Judaism is strictly
monotheistic. God
is an absolute one indivisible incomparable
being who is the
ultimate cause of all existence. Jewish
tradition teaches that
the true aspect of God is incomprehensible and
unknowable,
and that it is only God's revealed aspect that
brought the
universe into existence, and interacts with
mankind and the
world. In Judaism, the one God of Israel is the
God of
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who is the guide of
the world,
delivered Israel from slavery in Egypt, and gave
them the 613
Mitzvot at Mount Sinai as described in the
Torah. He also
gave the Seven Laws of Noah to all human-kind.
source: wikipedia
Kung ang kinikilalang Diyos ng mga Hudyo ay
hindi lang basta
isa kundi IISA LANG at ito nga ay ang AMA, bakit
hindi sila
sinaway ng Diyos at bakit hindi man lang itinuro
ng Diyos kay
Abraham, Isaac at Jacob na siya ay hindi IISA
LANG kundi may
tatlong persona?
Bakit sinasabi lagi sa kanila ng Diyos na walang
ibang Diyos
maliban sa kaniya at wala siyang nakikilalang
ibang Diyos?
“I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides
Me there is no
God I will gird you, though you have not known
Me; That men
may know from the rising to the setting of the
sun That there
is no one besides Me. I am the LORD, and there
is no other,”
Isa. 45:5-6
“Remember the former things long past, For I am
God, and
there is no other; I am God, and there is no one
like Me,” Isa.
46:9
“You are My witnesses," declares the
LORD," And My servant
whom I have chosen, So that you may know and
believe Me
And understand that I am He Before Me there was
no God
formed, And there will be none after Me.” Isa.
43:10
“Declare and set forth your case; Indeed, let
them consult
together Who has announced this from of old? Who
has long
since declared it? Is it not I, the LORD? And
there is no other
God besides Me, A righteous God and a Savior;
There is none
except Me.” Isa. 45:21
Eh di ba sabi nila, nag e-exist na si Kristo
kasama ng Diyos
pati ng Holy Spirit simula pa noong lalangin ang
mundo? Eh
bakit hindi man lang sinabi ng Diyos na meron
din Diyos Anak
at Diyos Espirito Santo para naman naging TAMA
man kung
saka sakali ang paniniwala nila Abraham at ang
mga hudyo
tungkol sa TUNAY NA DIYOS? Bakit naman kine-claim
ng Diyos
Ama na SIYA LANG ANG DIYOS AT WALA NG IBA?
Sabi pa niya, " Before Me there was no God
formed, And there
will be none after Me." eh paano na si
Kristo at ang Espirito
Santo, akala ko ba silay mga Diyos din?
At bakit ba kasi hindi tinuro ni Kristo ang
tungkol sa Trinity?
Bakit niya sinabi na siya’y ANAK NG DIYOS at
hindi DIYOS na
isa sa mga persona ng Trinity? Bakit niya sinabi
na IISA
LAMANG ANG DIYOS, at ito’y walang iba kundi ang
AMA na
nasa langit? Bakit si Kristo na Diyos daw ay may
Diyos din?
Sana, itong mga tanong na ito ay makatulong sa
pagbukas ng
inyong isipan at makatulong sa pagsusuri sa
tunay na mga
aral na nasa bibliya. Hangad ko na mahanap nyo
ang
katotohanan lalot napakahalaga na ALAM NATIN at
KILALA
NATIN ang sinasamba nating Diyos at kung sino
ang TUNAY na
DIYOS, baka hindi natin alam na ang Diyos palang
sinasamba,
at kinikilala natin ay MALING DIYOS, nakikitulad
tayo sa mga
pagano na MARAMI at may IBAT IBANG MGA DIYOS.
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